tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post7988137806110490809..comments2023-07-25T12:37:51.652+01:00Comments on Derby and Logic, by Stat Man: The Cambrian Question, or why can't the Welsh manage the Welsh?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-66589775050212307832013-02-01T17:20:30.665+00:002013-02-01T17:20:30.665+00:00You are wonderfully, factually incorrect. Great jo...You are wonderfully, factually incorrect. Great journalism there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-48769815622707279482013-01-31T14:02:28.006+00:002013-01-31T14:02:28.006+00:00NRG are UKRDA affiliated, meaning all of TnF are e...NRG are UKRDA affiliated, meaning all of TnF are eligible. At least that's my understanding on the issue.<br />In the case of Ballistic it would all depend if he has a British passport or not. If he does, he's eligible to play for England, if he doesn't, he's not.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-57292115241973208392013-01-29T21:26:53.495+00:002013-01-29T21:26:53.495+00:00First point no one is mentioning is that UK intern...First point no one is mentioning is that UK international based skaters may also be considered for selection to a National team. <br />Now if you play for an team abroad it means your team is not a UKRDA member nor do you as player practice your sport in the UK. How is this fair to any UK based skater (UKRDA skater or not?This was done so team England can pick the best skaters available to repesent them. Nothing wrong with this if you want to be the best but there is always a cost. The cost will be UK based skaters. So if you are a member of the UKRDA and you got all excited by the selection criteria think again there is an army of skaters with UK passports or Grandparents born in the UK that represents leagues in the USA and most of those skaters can outplay and skate most of us. So if team England want to take on the best and win the majority of skaters will be from teams based in USA and not England. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-34976050807158691192013-01-28T22:34:38.441+00:002013-01-28T22:34:38.441+00:00Answering only as myself, I would not want to join...Answering only as myself, I would not want to join an organisation that already considers itself in charge of my affairs. I don't trust a roller derby organisation that claims it's power from above, rather than from the skaters. UKRDA claims to already be able to dictate my affairs, but I can pay £100 to have a say in that. It's an untenable position.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-90959262428913885092013-01-28T22:31:35.546+00:002013-01-28T22:31:35.546+00:00Can I just ask - before this whole team thing - wh...Can I just ask - before this whole team thing - why do people not want to join UKRDA? What is the rationale behind not wanting to be a part of it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-5400442595506216852013-01-26T22:53:50.075+00:002013-01-26T22:53:50.075+00:00That was my question if reffing for an affiliated ...That was my question if reffing for an affiliated league meant you were eligible, I was considering Ugo Boss who skates for NWO but coaches RCRG. It's not confirmed, but it's the only way the majority of SDRD, TnF, NWO, TiL and LRT could be eligible for Team England.<br /><br />No disrespect to the Brummies, but as I said on facebook, we should be putting our best 20 players forward. A Team England without Reaper, Ballistic (would he play for England or Australia?), Darth Sebious, Bruise Brother, Lil Joker, etc isn't representative of English Men's Derby, any restriction on what players can apply for any national team dilutes the national team when this should be a spectacle of talent.<br /><br />- Captain Malice<br />(My personal opinion, nothing to do with my league)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-85608368790539159542013-01-26T18:21:12.919+00:002013-01-26T18:21:12.919+00:00p.p.s. It's often polite to identify yourself ...p.p.s. It's often polite to identify yourself when having a discussion, especially when you have addressed someone by name.Herbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-62296727359090232632013-01-26T18:11:35.480+00:002013-01-26T18:11:35.480+00:00I think it's great Ukrda are pushing for legit...I think it's great Ukrda are pushing for legitimate national teams. However in it's current state with the proposed requirements, it is not yet positioned to command a legitimate national men's team. We had no notice that these plans were being implemented so had no opportunity to participate in the process. <br />p.s. Paris is an easier commute ;)herbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-53080058496969553602013-01-26T15:56:54.361+00:002013-01-26T15:56:54.361+00:00One thing UKRDA is pushing through with BRSF is an...One thing UKRDA is pushing through with BRSF is an RD specific coaching qualification because exactly as your point says - who wants to pay £££ on a 'BRSF qualification that was developed prior to RD even being on their radar'. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-68988697614173413752013-01-26T15:26:07.727+00:002013-01-26T15:26:07.727+00:00Tiger Bay are a WFTDA apprentice league. To be WFT...Tiger Bay are a WFTDA apprentice league. To be WFTDA your league has to be women-only competitors. I assumed this meant they have no men's team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-8735899568140425382013-01-26T15:15:23.523+00:002013-01-26T15:15:23.523+00:00I'm pretty sure people don't understand th...I'm pretty sure people don't understand that international structure of roller sport (FIRS) and where roller derby, BRSF, UKRDA, USARS, WFTDA, MRDA etc fits into that big picture and what is being done to try and amalgamate that and bring things together, with the interests of OUR sport, rather than the interests of larger organisations and older roller sports.<br /><br />For example - FIRS want to really get involved in RD but don't want the sports committee to have any voting rights in their organisation. Or the "BRFS" coaching qualification that was developed prior to RD even being on their radar - why should we demand our coaches hold something that we had no input in developing? Where the £££ spent to obtain that bit of paper doesn't get put back in to our sport.<br />How European leagues are prohibited from joining WFTDA because they are abiding by their national law on equality and diversity. How leagues are having to shake-up their organisational structure to comply (as per previous post on this blog). That'll go down well with FIRS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-48039391848415619792013-01-26T15:12:26.378+00:002013-01-26T15:12:26.378+00:00Me, for one. Read the whole thing, read BRSF'...Me, for one. Read the whole thing, read BRSF's website, and Sport England's. It's actually really illuminating reading.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-27984541786782368912013-01-26T15:10:05.497+00:002013-01-26T15:10:05.497+00:00Herbie - that "loophole" has not been co...Herbie - that "loophole" has not been confirmed by the UKRDA, it's all part of the gossip & rumour train that's started.<br /><br />I wonder how many people who have nothing positive to say have read the full press release?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-35665942069593342852013-01-26T11:56:32.262+00:002013-01-26T11:56:32.262+00:00'Tis a bit strange. Hence my problem with UKR...'Tis a bit strange. Hence my problem with UKRDA claiming to speak for a large group of skaters ("All UK Roller Derby") when, in fact, it's only representative of a small group ("Affiliated Leagues").<br /><br />Go to Malmö, though, if you're going to transfer. Those folks rule.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-21318746557863733152013-01-26T11:53:31.100+00:002013-01-26T11:53:31.100+00:00Well the only sdrd or nwo skaters who are eligible...Well the only sdrd or nwo skaters who are eligible for an English mens team are those who will use a loophole so ridiculous as to be embarrassing. Supposedly if you ref a female Ukrda league, you're eligible to play for the men's national team,even if that league doesn't train you to play. If I transfer to Paris though, I can apply :Dherbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-64167186152781759942013-01-26T11:42:58.870+00:002013-01-26T11:42:58.870+00:00That's a very strong opinion for somebody who ...That's a very strong opinion for somebody who can't type their name ;)Herbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-57544248811121161482013-01-26T11:41:31.029+00:002013-01-26T11:41:31.029+00:00How is that so? Personally, I was quite excited b...How is that so? Personally, I was quite excited by that announcement. MRDA are a voluntary association, that only claims to speak for its members--that's the perfectly setup.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-29028698116336084992013-01-26T11:38:30.994+00:002013-01-26T11:38:30.994+00:00Some of us have been working very hard for years t...Some of us have been working very hard for years to contribute to RD. Some might consider being the first English teams in the mrda a notable achievement but it seems it makes us no longer English.herbienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-90779059974758726812013-01-26T11:28:34.510+00:002013-01-26T11:28:34.510+00:00You, Anon, you've got it right. No to doucheb...You, Anon, you've got it right. No to douchebaggery, yes to promoting the game. Whatever that means to you. If everyone just puts derby first, and their own interests second, the game will grow by leaps and bounds.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-36658601870582335742013-01-26T09:07:31.759+00:002013-01-26T09:07:31.759+00:00Hopefully all the energy this press release has &#...Hopefully all the energy this press release has 'released' will motivate those who are quick to complain but slow to actually do something, actually make a positive contribution. The beauty of Roller Derby is that it is continually evolving and anyone can have a part in its development if they care enough and are prepared to graft; be that on track or on a committee. Personal attacks and slanderous claims are douche bag behaviour - doesn't that go against RD ethos?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-49043081065410206722013-01-26T01:05:04.706+00:002013-01-26T01:05:04.706+00:00You do talk a whole lot of tedious crap, it was bo...You do talk a whole lot of tedious crap, it was boring as hell while you were still in the UK & I think most had hoped that when you left you'd turn your focus to your local area so we wouldn't have to listen to your drivel. We can only lament that's not been the case & lament the fools that think you have anything of worth to say. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-83774889935801200182013-01-26T00:45:55.352+00:002013-01-26T00:45:55.352+00:00Does the team Wales have to be sanctioned by the U...Does the team Wales have to be sanctioned by the UKRDA to enter the tournament?<br /><br />"It is also essential that the UK has only one sanctioned representative team (per individual country)."<br /><br />This says to me that Wales can give a big fuck you to the UKRDA and form an independent team Wales with it's own criteria for team eligibility (such as being a team from Wales). If Tiger Bay were to side with the rest of Wales on this then the UKRDA would be overruled on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-5404802397810438212013-01-26T00:24:57.328+00:002013-01-26T00:24:57.328+00:00Tiger Bay are UKRDA. Thus, UKRDA's Team Wales...Tiger Bay are UKRDA. Thus, UKRDA's Team Wales is just one league.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-16224282706064310052013-01-26T00:21:44.965+00:002013-01-26T00:21:44.965+00:00No they couldn't. There are no Welsh men's...No they couldn't. There are no Welsh men's teams who are members of the UKRDA. You can't be considered for UKRDA's national Welsh team, without being UKRDA. Therefore there is no UKRDA Welsh team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368076299093571305.post-17478188446697449902013-01-26T00:01:08.012+00:002013-01-26T00:01:08.012+00:00Not sure how this (http://derbyladder.blogspot.com...Not sure how this (http://derbyladder.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-exciting-time-for-derby.html) is divisive, or this (http://derbyladder.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-curious-case-of-co-ed-derby.html). My issues are, firstly, that UKRDA claim to represent all UK skaters, but are only responsible to their members. Those two are not the same. As well, a majority English group are telling the Welsh how their team must form. Finally, those requirements are such that only a minority of Welsh skaters are even represented by their national team.<br /><br />I would love to see skaters getting together, but in such a way that their decisions are fair to all skaters, not just those skaters who were part of the decision making process.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14420204467475082918noreply@blogger.com